Triangle Explained : Plot Holes Explained

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We finally are doing this explanatory post on the movie - Triangle. Did it take us from the year 2009 to understand this movie? No, we just saw it, umm, yeah.. moving on.

This movie didn't do too well, but re-watching helped us appreciate the keen eye director Christopher Smith.


The basic plot:


The movie opens with Jess comforting her autistic son Tommy who’s suffering from a nightmare. She’s dressed up and prepping to go someplace. She cleans paint of the floor, messes her dress up. She hears a door bell and no one is there. She’s packs a bag, hops into her car and drives out to the harbour.

Here’s what we are going to do to help you understand the movie’s convoluted plot:
The group of people who go sailing are – Jess (main focus person), Victor (single chap), Downey and Sally (married couple), Greg (boat owner), Heather (extra, you can ignore her, the director does too).
We are going to separate them in to groups to help understand what in the blazes is happening.

We will number them group-3. Jess-3, Victor-3, Downey-3, Sally-3 and Greg-3 … ok fine Heather-3.
They go sailing and get hit by a storm. Greg-3 also receives a distress signal from a woman in panic. He loses the signal, the boat upturns and they are stranded. Heather-3 gets flushed into the ocean and gets out of the plot after that (see we told you, she’s dead, let’s move along).

On the upturned boat, group-3 sits helplessly waiting for someone to come rescue them. And out comes a huge liner to their rescue. They see someone on the deck and they board the liner. On the liner, there seems to be nobody and the group starts searching. Jess-3 feels like she’s having a déjà vu and that she knows this liner. They continue further. Jess-3 finds her own keys lying around but no one knows how it got there, they suspect Heather is already on the liner (yeah sure).

They reach the dining area, still unable to find anyone on-board. Jess-3 sees someone running away and informs the group. Victor-3 runs after that someone. Greg-3 and Jess-3 go around further looking for someone from the ship. They ask Downey-3 and Sally-3 to wait in the dining area. Greg-3 and Jess-3 find a room with “Go To Theatre” written on a mirror in blood. Jess-3 freaks out about the blood and wants off the liner but Greg-3 wants to head to the theatre and they separate. Jess-3 goes to the dining area and no one is there, Victor-3 comes all bloodied. Victor-3 attacks Jess-3 but in the process Jess-3 locates a wound to the back of Victor-3’s head and aggravates it, killing him.

Jess-3 hears a gun shot, she follows it to the theatre. Greg-3 is lying dead. Downey-3 and Sally-3 are blaming Jess-3 for this. Greg-3, before he dies, tells them that Sally-? shot him. From above a masked person shoots both Downey-3 and Sally-3 and kills them. Jess-3 escapes and is chased by the masked person. Jess-3 over powers the masked person and masked person mumbles something before falling off the liner. Jess-3 is the lone survivor. She then hears a group shouting from over board. Jess-3 sees the entire group waving from an upturned boat, even herself (but no Heather, duh!). Jess-3 is the ‘someone’ group-4 now sees on the liner. Which also means group-3 saw Jess-2 as the ‘someone’ on the liner.

We will now refer to this as group-4 (Jess-4, Victor-4, Downey-4, Sally-4 and Greg-4). Jess-3 runs around in disbelief following group-4. In the process Jess-3 drops her keys, which Jess-4 picks up saying it was hers (in the same way Jess-3 does). Jess-3 gets spotted by Jess-4 and makes a run for it. Now Jess-4 informs group-4 about the ‘someone’ running away. Victor-4 runs after Jess-3.

Victor-4 catches up to Jess-3. Jess-3 tries to explain what has just happened. Obviously, Victor-4 doesn’t understand and thinks she is crazy. By mistake Jess-3 moves Victor-4 back on to a sharp protrusion impaling him on the head. Jess-3 freaks and runs for it. She finds a room with shotguns and notes on the floor saying “kill everyone who boards”, the notes are all written by previous versions of Jess. Jess-3’s locket gets pulled off her neck to only fall into a bunch of replicas; lockets that belonged to the previous versions of Jess. She picks up a gun and heads to save the people from group-4. First, Jess-3 intercepts Jess-4 and Victor-4’s meeting. This helps stop Jess-4 from aggravating Victor-4’s wound and killing him. Jess-3 doesn’t kill Jess-4, Jess-4 runs away.

Jess-3 runs to the theatre and saves Downey-4 and Sally-4. Greg-4 is dead however.  The Jess-3 shoots the masked shooter on top and causes a flesh would on the head. Downey-4, Sally-4 and Jess-3 make a run for it. Jess-3 momentarily separates from the two of them.
At this time they reveal that the masked shooter with the flesh wound is Jess, we have identified her to be Jess-2. Who is Jess-1 then? Jess-1 is the masked attacker who guns down Downey-3 and Sally-3, Jess-1 doesn’t have a flesh wound on her head and never takes the mask off. Jess-3 makes Jess-1 fall off the liner. So at any given time, there would three Jess.

Jess-2 tricks Downey-4 and Sally-4 to follow her into the room with the bloody mirror. Jess-2 kills Downey-4 with a knife and fatally wounds Sally-4. Sally-4 makes a run for it. Jess-3 spots Sally-4 and runs behind her to help. Sally-4 finds a control room and tries to send out a distress signal. This signal is the same as what Greg-3 is shown receive in the start of the movie. Sally-4’s signal is now being received by Greg-5 who’s not yet hit the storm. Sally-4 run to the upper levels to a location which has a whole bunch of dead Sally’s. Just like the many lockets and notes, Sally has died over and over. Jess-3 sees Jess-2 being hacked to death by Jess-4. Jess-2 is the shooter with a flesh wound to the head and Jess-4 is the one who Jess-3 spares while trying to save Victor-4.
The fight between Jess-2 and Jess-4 (the even ones) is different from the fight between Jess-1 and Jess-3 (the odd ones). This is because of the interference that Jess-3 introduced.

Sall-4 dies of bleeding, Jess-3 and Jess-4 are alive, watching a new group of themselves come to the liner. This is group-5. Group-5 sees Jess-4 as the ‘someone’ on-board. Jess-3 realizes that this is going to keep happening until everyone – including herself is killed and no one enters the liner. She is desperate to go back to her son. Jess-3 now goes ahead and cleans up all the bodies and starts doing all the actions Jess-1 did. She removes Downey-4’s body and writes “Go To Theatre” with his blood on the mirror. Jess-3 sees Jess-4 wounding Victor-5 to the head.
The conversation that Victor-5 and Jess-4 have is also very different from the conversation Victor-4 has with Jess-3. Again, this is because of the interference Jess-3 has done.

Jess-3 goes to the dining hall and tells Downey-5 and Sally-5 to go to the theatre. Jess-3 gets a gun, puts on a mask and follows Greg-5 into the theatre and shoots him. Greg-5 recognizes that the shooter is Jess. Down below, we can see Downey-5 and Sally-5 blaming Jess-5 for the death of Greg-5. Jess-3 shoots and kills Downey-5 and Sally-5 (exactly in the way Jess-1 kills Downey-3 and Sally-3). Jess-5 escapes and Jess-3 (the masked person) chases. The same fight ensues between Jess-3 and Jess-5 (that we earlier see between Jess-1 and Jess-3). Jess-5 gets the upper hand, Jess-3 mumbles to kill everyone and falls off the liner.

This marks the end of the liner episode. What we would like to point out here is that there are two loops of events:

1) Where Jess never sees a past Jess. In this example the odd Jess. While the odd Jess sees a future Jess, the past Jess she meets and fights has a mask on and never gets to see the past Jess’ face. The odd Jess also doesn’t get hacked to death; she simply falls off the liner. The odd Jess also never gets intercepted by a past Jeff and ends up fighting a Victor in the dining area, killing him
    2) Where Jess meets her past Jess. In this example the even Jess. The even Jess gets intercepted by her past self at the dining area and is spared. This Jess however goes on to get a flesh wound to her head when she’s shooting. The even Jess also gets hacked to death and thrown overboard.

The story continues following Jess-3 who falls off the liner alive. She gets washed on to shore. She heads back home. From outside she sees the events of the morning in her house. This means that she has returned at an earlier point in time. Jess-3 sees her morning self shout and abuse her son. Tommy sees Jess-3 outside the window and causes the paint to spill. The Jess inside the home further shouts at Tommy and starts cleaning up and messes her dress up (exactly like in the first scene). Jess-3 from outside rings the bell and hides. Jess from inside hears the door bell, but no one is there. Jess-3 sneaks up behind Jess in the house and bludgeons her with a hammer.

Tommy sees this. Jess-3 holds Tommy and tells him that he just had a nightmare (so that’s the nightmare in the first scene). She puts the dead Jess into a bag and packs it with other clothes (so there was a dead body in the bag in the first scene). Loads the car and drives off. On the way she hits a seagull. She stops to dispose of the dead seagull and notices a whole bunch of dead seagulls. This only means that other Jess’ (the odd ones who survive on the liner) have been around doing the same actions. The seagulls are shown to be somehow connected to the time vortex on the liner and hence like everything on the liner, their versions from other timelines keeps accumulating (eg: multiple lockets, multiple notes, multiple dead Sally, etc).

Jess-3 gets back in the car and starts driving, distracted by Tommy she hits a truck and the car tumbles. This kills Tommy and the body of dead Jess is lying out. Jess-3 is however not killed and is standing watching this. A taxi guy offers a ride and she heads to the harbour. When she enters the harbour she meets a Victor, a Greg, a Downey, a Sally and Heather. They are just preparing for the sail. The loop has started all over and they head out. This explains why Jess-3 is having a déjà vu in the liner, the shock of her son dying makes her thing that her son is in school and she’s come for a sailing trip without him. Her guilt is not that she’s left him in school, but that she resulted in his death.

Plot Holes:

The one plot hole that stood out was the point of accident. How is she outside the car, unscratched? Why does a random taxi driver want to drive her to the harbour? That scene is a little out of character.


The liner is stuck in a time vortex. Therefore the people and objects brought into the liner will keep increasing. There will be more and more dead bodies of the same person as more loops happen. There will be more lockets as well. But back in town, when Jess hits a seagull, she sees a pile of dead seagulls. If that were the case there should also be a pile of dead Tommys and Jess too. We made a gross assumption on this one that the seagulls also happen to get to land from the liner and therefore have the property of sticking around even when the time loop is reset.


Only alternate Jess' (in this case the odd Jess') make it out alive from the liner. This Jess who makes it alive is who goes back to her house, kills her "dressed up self" and takes Tommy in the car, gets him killed, ends up in the harbour and back at the liner. The even Jess' get killed, hence they can't land up to kill the "dressed up Jess" and restart the loop. But we already know that Jess' keep coming non-stop. So how does that happen. One plausible explanation is that something else causes Jess' dress to get soiled and she needs to change up. Hence she changes into shorts and tees, gets into another accident killing Tommy and gets to the harbor to meet the rest. This is not really explained, it's just an assumption. Another assumption is that the Taxi man is the angel of death and is "waiting" for Jess to accept that she has died along with Tommy, not very satisfying but brings us to the philosophical point of discussion.


Philosophical Discussion:

Aeolus is the name of the liner. Sisyphus, the son of Aeolus breaks a promise he makes to death. As a result he is punished to by being compelled to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, and to repeat this action forever. Ring a bell? This is mentioned in the movie.

The analogy to this is Jess making a promise to the cab driver that she would return. She says “I promise”. Jess breaks her promise too. She goes to the harbour but decides to go on the sail trip. This analogy also means that Jess is dead and her soul is refusing to cross over in the ferry (taxi). When in the movie does she really die then?

Let’s list down the points of time when Jess dies in the movie:
-          Gets bludgeoned to death
-          Dies in a car accident (perhaps?)
-          Gets axed to death on the liner
-          Falls off the liner and drowns (perhaps?)
-          Gets killed when the sail boat upturns (perhaps?)

The events of the loop are all analogous to the act of ‘roll an immense boulder up a hill’. So we can safely assume that events of the loop, hence the liner events, are all post death. What we need to locate is the start point of the loop. The harbour seems the logical point where the loop starts as that is right after her breaking her promise to the taxi man (death).


The Jess who is in the loop is wearing shorts; the Jess in the dress is out of the loop. This can mean that the Jess in shorts is dead. The Jess in the dress possibly starts the day by shouting at her son and is heading to the harbour to meet her friends with Tommy. On the way she meets with an accident where both she and Tommy are killed. This event is not shown in the movie. The one shown in the movie is the one where Jess in shorts is driving the car, which is post death and part of the loop. The actual event was possibly just Jess in the dress with her son meeting with an accident and dying. She is met by the taxi man (death), to help her cross over. The time on her watch matches the clock on the ship, perhaps it’s the time she died. 8:17AM. oooh!



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38 comments:

  1. thank you for this!

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  2. Umm... your plot holes is way way off. You didn't seem to catch that there is a dead Jess in the car wreckage too. Actually you missed a much bigger point... the whole movie is a loop, not just the liner timeline. The Jess that is standing with the taxi driver (eg. Death) is Jess post death. Starting the climb back up the hill again, having just watched the rock roll down the mountain.

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    1. Umm, the accident sequence is addressed, it's just not done linearly in this post.
      The Liner time loop was more confusing hence we addressed it in more detail.

      The assumption we've made is that - some event in Jess' day causes the accident. In this accident she is wearing a sundress. Her son is dead because of her, the ferry man (taxi driver) is trying to get Jess to cross over post this. The Jess he's trying to get to cross over is in shorts. She promises to him that she would be back and to keep the meter running. When she leaves to the harbour, the loop starts. What are your thoughts on this?

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    2. I think there's more finer details you have missed.

      One of they keys is figuring out when, how and most importantly WHY the loop (punishment) starts.

      In my opinion it starts right at home, the whole movie is a (mostly unseen, only hinted) loop.

      The movie shows twice (implying recurssion) that Jess was always meant to arrive with her son to the trip, her friends wonder where Tommy is, he was supposed to be right there with her. We can assume that never happens...but why wouldnt it happen the first time? and why did she change her dress between the original scene at home and the boat trip?

      Lets annalyze Jess. Shes an overburdened mother, growing increasingly mentally unstable, abusive and violent. She wants a relaxing day with her friends. she NEEDS it.

      During the first iteration Tommy couldnt possibly have seen Jess' doppleganger, so he wouldnt have spilled the paint and Jess wouldnt have soiled her dress. And she wouldnt have been stopped by herself when she starts abusing her son. How did she get her dress dirty then?

      so this is my take on it. The first iteration, Jess gets angry at Tommy to the point where she finally snaps and kills him. Puts him on a bag, changes her clothes because of the blood stainds from the murder, drives herself (no accident) to the harbour and takes the rest she always wanted, a trip day without worries. Then in a freak accident they die and her punishment begins, being forced to experience the whole day over and over again.

      In the movie the protagonists muse about the Sisyphus myth and one of them comments "woah, now thats a pretty severe punishment, was it really warranted?"...I think its making us question "Does Jess really deserves all that just for being a shitty mother?"...no, not even close.
      otoh, for murdering her own son....yeah

      The taxi driver is Death/Hades, and its purpose its two fold. It shows why Jess, just like Sisyphus, has her punishment restarted (by breaking her promise) but also shows her some mercy, the chance of final salvation, of perhaps breaking the cycle once she has gone thru it enough, and is ready to accepts her sins. He says "You cannot save your son", and also "you will come back and pay me, promise?"...all Jess has to do is accept that her son is gone because of her wrongdoings, and just come back (let herself be taken to the otherside). As long as she cannot accept that she will stubbornly keep trying to mend her faults, perpetuating the cycle.

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    3. Nice! That is a good add.
      But going on the lines of what you are saying, perhaps, she does meet with an accident in the first loop and dies. After which she meets the Taxi driver. She makes a promise to him that she doesn't keep. He stands there with his meter running. That could be a point of the start of her punishment too. In either case, yeah, the kid was perhaps killed.

      Good flow of thoughts there, thanks for taking the time to write in.

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    4. Wow Wise! You are so clever! I've never seen that coming! It's the best explaination ever. Obviously, she kill her son and she is coming back to save him! But she just cant save him. She keeps killing him and that's the reason why she returns everytime! Good one!

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    5. Good take Wise. But... How would she generate the loop if they died in an accident? It would be more reasonable if she died in an accident for being worried and death gives her the opportunity to finish the "day off". Anyway my question is this, why does she want to go after the accident from which Tommy died?

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    6. Her loop starts after her death, the second time she dies is only her reliving her accident again and again.

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    7. I like Wise's explanation. One thing bugs me though. If she didn't die in a car accident why is her watch stopped around 2 hours before greg's. If she died along with them on the liner shouldn't time of death be the same?

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    8. That's what I was saying. The loop has to have started after the car accident in which she dies. Hence the watch shows that time. The punishment however starts when she leaves the taxi - the promise to death that she doesn't keep.

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    9. The first Jess, the one that killed her son, didn't die in a car accident as Wise says.
      All other Jess after that, like the one we see in the movie re-live the accident.
      Since the first Jess arrived at the harbour alive and died, as presumed by Wise, with the rest on the yacht she shouldn't in the first place have her watch set at 8:20.
      Unless that time marks the death of her son which doesn't make much sense to me.

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    10. In real life, Jess couldn't kill her past self. The real life death is more plausible because of the accident. The accident was caused possibly because of her careless driving and the screaming kid. So on the point of her dying after reaching the harbor, I disagree because the taxi driver himself is not actually a taxi driver, he's manifested for Jess only because she has already died, just that she hasn't accepted it. the watch stops at 8:20 because that marks the time of the death, the accident.

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  3. First time she brought keys on aeolus, was the original first time that she came with them to triangle. After that, keys just change hands and pockets at the boat. Car accident is just the aftermath of hell she never be able to escape.

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  4. each time we go back in time something different happens so it affects the future . it's not back to the future it's groundhog day .it was weird when she saw herself then bumped into turntable and it went into a strange remix.lol.

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    1. Yeah Groundhog Day on steroids.

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  5. At a time there was 3 jess that might be the reason for movie name Traingle because the plot involving all 3 Jess is shown in liner

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  6. I think 'WISE' makes the best sense, it explains pretty well how the loop ACTUALLY started. Well done! But a brilliant piece nonetheless by you too (Digestive Pyrotechnics), like always (Y)

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  7. My take on the events of the movie is that every time Jess goes on the boat with her friends, she still has her memories from the entire ordeal during the previous cycle (the cruise ship, killing her son in the crash, etc), which is why she is acting she strangely and feeling so guilty in the beginning of the movie. It is only once she goes asleep in the boat that she loses this memory. Heather asks her whats wrong but she only says she "had a bad dream" but "can't remember it anymore," only recalling the part about the beach. At this point, Heather tells her that bad dreams are just a way to rid oneself of the stress they experience during the waking hours, which I think is major foreshadowing for this. It makes a lot of sense, because Jess definitely appears to be hiding something in the beginning of the movie before the whole sleeping incident, in which she becomes just as clueless as the rest of her friends.

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  8. Hi everyone. This is Mano From India (chennai). 2 days before i watched triangle & m still possessed by the movie. i couldnt come out of the movie till now. D movie was really awesome & truely thrilling. one of the best psychological & time travel movies i hav ever watched. D lead actress Melissa has done a great job, so as the writer & director. i went thro d explanation in this site but still i have some doubts. hope my doubts are cleared here.
    1. as per d time loop victor 4 is not dead, if so wat happens to the even victors??? if even victors r not dead how come d loop repeats for the next odd groups to enter d ship???
    2. wen group 3 enters d ocean liner they c "go to theatre" written in blood in mirror. but how come jess 3 again writes d same in the mirror? if she writes newly were did d old writing goes???
    3. if jess 3 is the one who goes to the harbor in the first n last scene, what happened to jess1, jess 5 & the other odd jess?? and also is it only till group 5 or there are more no of groups to enter the liner like group 6,7,8,9 etc???
    4. i think if jess can kill d other jess, the loop will come to an end. since she could kill her ownself the loop is repeating. am i correct????
    5. Also regarding d keys of jess, which jess brought the keys to d liner for d first time????? y are d other jess didnt bring d keys with them if the first jess brought it with her????

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    1. 1) Victor 4 is wounded in the head by Jess 3 and he dies. All Victors die. Every Victor is wounded by Jess of the previous loop.

      2) This is an excellent point. Looks like whatever was created on the ship is reset when the loop begins. The sign with the blood was created in a loop and is reset when the loop restarts.

      3) Each odd Jess goes to the harbour eventually and starts her own loop with her own set of people. But technically this loop is her post death loop of toil and there can be an endless set of loops till she keeps her promise to the Taxi Driver.

      4) The even Jess end up killing the earlier even Jess. This doesn't end the loop. The loop can end only is Jess accepts her death and goes with the Taxi Driver.

      5) When Jess does her first trip to the liner, she would have brought the keys with her, after that it just passes from one Jess to the other. The other Jess' didn't bring it with them because they drop it in the ship and the next jess picks it up and drops it and so on.

      Hope that helped.

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    2. hi thank u so much for your kind reply. i really appreciate it. Ur answers helped me.
      but i still have some doubts....
      1. As per the explanation in the site "at any given time, there would three Jess in the liner" which also relates to the title "Triangle" (3 angles of 3 jess). but my question is when jess 3 is fighting with jess 1, what was jess 2 doing???
      2. if jess1 was the masked shooter for the jess 3 and group 3, who would hav been the masked shooter for jess 1 and group 1 ????
      3. when sallys dead body, seagulls dead body, lockets accumulate in every loop, where are greg, downey & victors bodies accumulated????
      4. if you say the events created in the ship resets after every loop (as per ur 2nd answer) y is sally body, lockets, written notes are being accumulated??????
      5.when group 3 enters d dining hall for the d first jess 3 notices d foods displayed very fresh, but when she returns back to join sally 3 & downy 3, y the foods are decayed???? any special mention for that???
      6. also y is the time in d wall clock (dining hall) and in jess watch r d same???? any special mention for that???
      7. if Jess 3 informs sally 5 & downey 5 to go to the theatre, which jess would have told sally 1 & downey 1 to got to the theatre???

      And apart from trinagle i hav few questions about different movies as follows,
      1. after watching triangle i also watched fight club (1999). my question is, the hero & heroine are dead r not in d end & y is a penis shown in the end ( for any spl reason)????
      2. i also read the story of dead of nights (1945). it was quite interesting, but couldnt get the essence of the climax. what is the twisting, thrilling climax of that movie???
      3. In 1408 movie when cussak is trapped in the hotel how come suddenly he gets up int beach & again enters d room? need some clarification?? is there any explanantion for that movie in this site??
      4. it would b my pleasure to know your name & location for helping me :-)

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    3. I am Roger
      Sorry but I don't agree with the reset idea, because why would the Sallys accumulate if the linear resets? I think that Downey 4, in his last breath, trying to save the others (Victor and hoping Sally) wipes out the "Go to the theatre" and tries to write "jes..."
      Anyway thank for sharing your ideas and points of view. They really helps us. Especially you Digestive pyrotechnic. Thank you very much!

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    4. I believe the reset is only on repeat of events. Whatever stays on board accumulates - eg: Sally, lockets, etc. Other elements like Victor and other people get thrown off board and that's why you don't seem them accumulating.

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  9. One question: What motivates Jess to break the promise with death?

    In the Sisyphus myth, Sisyphus breaks a promise with death to climb back into the living world to see his wife. Sisyphus knows where his wife is and that she is still alive. Sisyphus never returns to the underworld and therefore is punished by rolling the stone up the hill for eternity.

    In the movie, with Jess = Sisyphus, you are saying that she breaks a promise with death in order to get onto the boat and go back in time and try to change the car crash/death of Tommy... but how does she know that going on the boat will give her another chance to save her son? She doesn't experience the boat going back in time until it's already a part of the punishment. In fact, the entire movie is essentially the rolling of the stone punishment and I don't think we actually see the initial "lie" to death.

    It would be different if say, Tommy is taken by child protection services and Jess dies alone in the car crash. She haggles with death to go back to the living world to say goodbye to Tommy one last time etc etc. and ends up trying to take Tommy back in order to restart their life together. In that scenario, that would be a lie motivated by her reasoning to see Tommy again (because Tommy is still alive and she can find him).

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  10. Hi vaibhav sharma. thanks for ur kind reply. I went thro d explanation in the link given by u. it was nice & superb, hats off to ur investigation. I agree with most of ur points but disagree with some points. hence i still want Digestive Pyrotechnics to answer my questions (1 question newly included : if jess is the one who needs punishment for her sin, why r her innocent friends r killed repeatedly. what sin did they do???). waiting for the replies.

    Also i want to discuss abt Memento (2000) & looper (2012) with n number of questions...
    i dont find any explanantions available for those movies here, if availbale pls send the link......

    m waiting.............

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    1. Hi Anonymous, sorry for the late response. Jess is basically unable to accept the truth of her possibly killing her autistic son. She wants to look away from all of that and not face the reality. The second reality seems to be that she has also died and running away from the death of her son is also making her run away from her own death. The people on the boat could possibly be projections of Jess' friends and is only part of her never ending nightmare. While in the real world, they probably left on the boat trip without Jess, had a great time and got back.

      We haven't gotten to writing Memento and Looper yet, will do soon. Thanks for being patient.

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  11. It was a great explanation by digestive pyrotechnics as well as wise(28th May)..but..in the lines of wise,he/she mentioned like that jess killed her son and then went to harbor to sail.It was also told that in this time she changed her dress..but my question is that,where jess hide her son's body at the time of her reaching harbor?/how she managed the hiding of her son's dead body??/what's about her son's body???..

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    1. Hi Anikra, sorry for the late response.
      The accident is shown in a way that people on the street are seeing the dead body of a boy and a woman in a sun dress. This is the real world fate of Jess and her son. The Jess with the shorts is a post death version of her, the version who she's wanted to be, care free and free of the responsibility of an autistic son. Only the taxi driver can see this Jess in the shorts the others don't seem to notice her. The taxi driver is trying to take her across. Jess wants to run away from the reality of killing her son and dying. Hence she keeps the taxi driver waiting and wants to go on a carefree trip with her apparent friends. Hope that helps.

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  12. Hi everybody. This is Mano. My questions r as follows,
    1. As per the explanation in the site "at any given time, there would three Jess in the liner" which also relates to the title "Triangle" (3 angles of 3 jess). but my question is when jess 3 is fighting with jess 1, what was jess 2 doing???
    2. if jess1 was the masked shooter for the jess 3 and group 3, who would hav been the masked shooter for jess 1 and group 1 ????
    3. when sallys dead body, seagulls dead body, lockets accumulate in every loop, where are greg, downey & victors bodies accumulated????
    4. if you say the events created in the ship resets after every loop (as per ur 2nd answer) y is sally body, lockets, written notes are being accumulated??????
    5.when group 3 enters d dining hall for the d first jess 3 notices d foods displayed very fresh, but when she returns back to join sally 3 & downy 3, y the foods are decayed???? any special mention for that???
    6. also y is the time in d wall clock (dining hall) and in jess watch r d same???? any special mention for that???
    7. if Jess 3 informs sally 5 & downey 5 to go to the theatre, which jess would have told sally 1 & downey 1 to got to the theatre???

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    1. 1) Jess 2 has taken her Mask off and is with Sally-3 convincing them that she is their Jess.

      2) Jess 1 is only based on who we see in the movie, it's a numbering used for convenience. The loop is otherwise endless. There would be previous Jess at all points of time.

      3) Greg, Downey and Victor's dead bodies are gotten rid of (possibly thrown overboard) by Jess

      4) The reset is in the start of events, i.e. the items from the previous group are not deleted. Restart simply is related to a new group coming to the liner.

      5) The decayed food doesn't seem to have a relevance to the main story but it is to indicate that the timeline in the liner is not linear. That events happen in a cyclic manner.

      6) That time on Jess' watch could possibly indicate the time that she originally dies. Events on the liner are part of her never-ending punishment.

      7) like in the case of answer for 2, the loops in the liner are never-ending and there is an endless loop of Jess and the crew.

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  13. And apart from trinagle i hav few questions about different movies as follows,
    1. after watching triangle i also watched fight club (1999). my question is, the hero & heroine are dead r not in d end & y is a penis shown in the end ( for any spl reason)????
    2. i also read the story of dead of nights (1945). it was quite interesting, but couldnt get the essence of the climax. what is the twisting, thrilling climax of that movie???
    3. In 1408 movie when cussak is trapped in the hotel how come suddenly he gets up int beach & again enters d room? need some clarification?? is there any explanantion for that movie in this site??
    4. it would b my pleasure to know your name & location for helping me :-)

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    1. lazy fuck, if you want answers for other movies, search for a thread about those movies, dont do it here

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  14. Did anyone notice the sweater change? After she hits the pigeon her sweater goes from being grey, to being red. And then changes again, back to grey, during the storm that overturns their boat. Could this be significant? Used, perhaps, to illustrate the "seems" of the loop? Beginning and end? Or could this just be a flaw? Doubtful in a film of this complexity and assiduousness.

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  15. Also, I'm just plain shocked nobody has referenced the very plausable Bermuda Triangle connection...

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  16. Just watched this on Youtube.

    First and foremost whatever the movie was billed as, it was actually a supernatural (or paranormal) horror thriller. The main plot is actually about hell or Tartarus of Greek mythology (not Biblical Tartarus). The give away is in the name of the ship and also the mentioning of Sisyphus (a character in Greek mythology) by the Sally character.

    Essentially then Jess is in (Greek Mythology) Tartarus hell living out the never ending torment of hell which is a type of the same fate suffered by Sisyphus (whose eternal fate and punishment was to push a rock up a mountain only to have it roll down again and he had to start all over each time he reach the top) only different type of punishment.

    The name of the sail boat 'Triangle' then was just a red herring.

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